In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Dr. Lee Scheinbart engages in a profound and deeply personal conversation with Dr. Jerome Adams, the former U.S. Surgeon General.  During the initial wave of COVID-19, Dr. Adams made some of the most impactful decisions in US history that only he could make.  Perhaps the most crucial was his commitment to lead the nation and not to be painted as the politicized doctor of the President.  Dr. Adams shares insights from his book 'Crisis and Chaos,' emphasizing the importance of effective communication, health equity, and the critical role of trust in healthcare.  The two physician leaders also discuss lessons learned from the opioid epidemic, emergency readiness and response, the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the need to safeguard public health as an issue of national security.